Maybe VR isn't dead after all... - Valve Index Review

  • Published: 12 August 2019
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Comments • 6 284

  • Phillipe
    Phillipe  1 weeks back

    Oculus Rift S, anyone? Linus forgot to mention it entirely!!!!!!! No need for extra cameras at all, for $ 400, it’s a good VR headset...

    • xSphinx
      xSphinx  2 hours back

      Had one, returned it because of no external base station tracking. Internal camera room tracking only and lights are definitely needed to be on if its dark for tracking. If you play FPS games, dont use a rift s, get the index.

    • eric smith
      eric smith  3 hours back

      Fmily you’d be surprised. If you could tell 80 from 90 you’d be lying. It looks flawless in the Rift S and I’m hyper sensitive to these types of things.

    • eric smith
      eric smith  3 hours back

      Shayd lies

    • eric smith
      eric smith  3 hours back

      Zenroy what virtual reality do you live in lol. The Rift S is the best all round WMR headset 🤣😂🤣

    • JaayOnPC
      JaayOnPC  8 hours back

      Thats the one i want to buy just for no mans sky :)

  • partin25
    partin25  15 minutes back

    Holy shit. I don’t own a VR headset but I do have 3 cats. I can relate so hard to the Switch being knocked over lol. I’ve had my tv pulled down by a climbing cat

    • Devils Boy
      Devils Boy  15 minutes back

      Aww man, your so lucky i want to get one sooo bad but they dont ship to vancouver!!!!

      • FinalKamehameHillbilly
        FinalKamehameHillbilly  18 minutes back

        The Valve Index,
        1000 USD,
        Same shit but better graphics,
        Has a mother fuckin KITTY!

        • Lu The Gamecat
          Lu The Gamecat  21 minutes back

          I couldn't focus on the vid at all because your cat is so cute

          • MulleDK19
            MulleDK19  54 minutes back

            "I do wish this was more of a strap on experience"
            "I know; you're only doing what daddy taught you."

            This video is pretty dirty.

            • Iceflame
              Iceflame  60 minutes back

              Linus.. why don't you do AR ?

              • EVOLICIOUS
                EVOLICIOUS  38 minutes back

                Right now AR is a hardly existing gimmick. Hololense 2, magic leap, all complete garbage and worthless. Maybe in 10 years.

            • Ga2Z
              Ga2Z  1 hours back

              13:18 mierda ¡es Zeus!

              • arcanask
                arcanask  1 hours back

                Full hand control and the first thing he does is test whether he can flip people off with it. What a time we live in. lmao

                • VALHALL
                  VALHALL  2 hours back

                  haha strap on experience xD

                  • HikKi
                    HikKi  2 hours back

                    YOU NAMED YOUR CAT SHADOW TOO?

                    • EchoGaming 17
                      EchoGaming 17  2 hours back

                      Has anyone noticed their there’s a cat in the box 3:32

                      • Angel Arch
                        Angel Arch  3 hours back

                        Kitteh!!! :D

                        • Aiden Simmons
                          Aiden Simmons  3 hours back

                          Speaking of $1000, look at these 5 screwdrivers!

                          • Kafeh
                            Kafeh  3 hours back

                            20:49 damn listen to his voice, he went full android for a second

                            • Legendarymark112
                              Legendarymark112  3 hours back

                              How could you possibly think it was dead in the first place?

                              • TheZombieSurvivalist
                                TheZombieSurvivalist  4 hours back

                                I just got a Samsung odyssey plus for $160 and got into VR

                                • Joey Johansen
                                  Joey Johansen  4 hours back

                                  Valve Index is not available in canada, either from Valve itself or amazon... dang you!

                                  • EVOLICIOUS
                                    EVOLICIOUS  37 minutes back

                                    Valve has never sold hardware to canada, you'll have to wait till end of this year when some retailers might get them.

                                • abanoub samy
                                  abanoub samy  5 hours back

                                  I have a small question which vr positioning system is better : the one with cameras in the vr itself only or the one that needs external sensors like the on in the vid.. 🤔

                                  • EVOLICIOUS
                                    EVOLICIOUS  36 minutes back

                                    lol, outside tracking, DUH. You really think a couple of optical sensors can track a controller behind you?

                                • Corazon Sierra
                                  Corazon Sierra  5 hours back

                                  the segways crack me up! i have ad blocker to block the obnoxious ads that bloat every channel on youtube... but not once have i regretted your ad segways xD

                                  • Saturn2888
                                    Saturn2888  5 hours back

                                    The reason moving to 120Hz wouldn't show a difference is if your system isn't running at that speed. I've seen it on other reviews too. If your machine isn't fast enough (980 Ti), then that might be the issue. Lowering the render resolution should fix that.

                                    Because of the way VR renders to the headset, 1:1 resolution to headset pixel isn't 1:1. SteamVR has a way to modify it so you render say 1.5x or 2x the resolution of the headset to account for this discrepancy. If you're rendering at too high a resolution (the Index is higher resolution than the Vive), then your 980 Ti might not be able to keep up.

                                    That's my assumption on that paddle game. You'd know for sure if you measured frame times.

                                    • Psythix
                                      Psythix  5 hours back

                                      omg my cat is called shadow :o

                                      • 2StepMarv
                                        2StepMarv  5 hours back

                                        Wait, this comes with a cat? Damn, im getting one right now.

                                        • Bio Kek
                                          Bio Kek  6 hours back

                                          So we're just gonna ignore the pussy in the package?

                                          • Baby Spine
                                            Baby Spine  6 hours back

                                            the lenovo explorer has LCD lens as well and they are terrible

                                            • EVOLICIOUS
                                              EVOLICIOUS  34 minutes back

                                              LCD varies. LCD is pretty advanced nowadays so their are hundreds of different kinds of LCD displays that differ greatly from eachother. The BOE display in the Index vs. the JDI display in the HP Reverb, very different LCD displays with completely different functions.

                                          • rslife
                                            rslife  7 hours back

                                            what? you not only get a VR headset but you also get a cat!

                                            • Evercreeper
                                              Evercreeper  9 hours back

                                              I am fellow Canadian, I feel sad too.

                                              • Krabben Army
                                                Krabben Army  9 hours back

                                                Are the Valve index Controller compatible with the Vive headset? Never found a reliable awnser

                                                • EVOLICIOUS
                                                  EVOLICIOUS  33 minutes back

                                                  @Cole Keeton "little work", by you mean endless tweaking to get everything aligned correctly every time you boot up and of course you need lighthouses and steamvr controllers. Really, if you have a vive or index, there is no point in using a Rift at that point, lmao.

                                                • Cole Keeton
                                                  Cole Keeton  7 hours back

                                                  Krabben Army yes. And with a little work u can use them on the oculus too

                                              • DJ SICK__BOY
                                                DJ SICK__BOY  9 hours back

                                                stop be rich kind reviewer m8 and show something logical with normal price

                                                • EVOLICIOUS
                                                  EVOLICIOUS  31 minutes back

                                                  How is a couple thousand dollars, "rich"? How do you suppose people buy TVs, cars, houses, ect.?
                                                  You could be paid minimum wage at full time and afford all this stuff easily.

                                              • weeeds334
                                                weeeds334  9 hours back

                                                12:00 lol rofl lmao Xd

                                                • Richard Green
                                                  Richard Green  10 hours back

                                                  How much no thanx

                                                  • Micah Tartles
                                                    Micah Tartles  10 hours back

                                                    Are you going to be selling your Vive. I live nearby and would be interested in buying

                                                    • Ryan Lawrence
                                                      Ryan Lawrence  10 hours back

                                                      it comes with a cat???

                                                      • het gouden katje
                                                        het gouden katje  10 hours back

                                                        Please linus review also the ocleus rift.

                                                        • Miguel Pereira
                                                          Miguel Pereira  10 hours back

                                                          I'd rather spend 1000$ on this than on a phone

                                                          • IraQ Nid
                                                            IraQ Nid  10 hours back

                                                            So naturally you guys need to have cat VR headsets enabling your kitties to enjoy the VR interface. But be sure to make the cables chew proof.

                                                            • Papa Labman
                                                              Papa Labman  10 hours back

                                                              I'm pretty sure Linus has given up on smooth segues

                                                              • fede
                                                                fede  10 hours back

                                                                Wtf cat in the box??

                                                                • Yar0nix
                                                                  Yar0nix  10 hours back

                                                                  "...I still do wish that it was more of a strap-on experience."

                                                                  • Lukas Sprehn
                                                                    Lukas Sprehn  10 hours back

                                                                    Maybe? What? It was never dead or close to being dead. What are you talking about?

                                                                    • J-THR3
                                                                      J-THR3  11 hours back

                                                                      If you’re an average consumer, get the Oculus Quest. You can even stream SteamVR to it with almost unnoticeable latency if you have a 5ghz wifi network.

                                                                      • J-THR3
                                                                        J-THR3  20 minutes back

                                                                        EVOLICIOUS guess I found the person that hasn’t tried it yet, or who doesn’t have fast enough internet for it to work. Not everyone enjoys it but most people won’t care or notice.

                                                                      • EVOLICIOUS
                                                                        EVOLICIOUS  30 minutes back

                                                                        "unnoticeable latency", at 50ms.......
                                                                        VR presence doesn't even start till under 23ms. Streaming VR over 5ghz is inherently flawed, it doesn't work, lmao.

                                                                    • Lanes
                                                                      Lanes  11 hours back

                                                                      "I do wish it was more of a strap on experience" ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

                                                                      • Ashley Keyser
                                                                        Ashley Keyser  11 hours back

                                                                        my cats name is shadow!

                                                                        • oktc68
                                                                          oktc68  11 hours back

                                                                          VR no no no, all that money to look like a complete arse Linus.

                                                                          • EVOLICIOUS
                                                                            EVOLICIOUS  30 minutes back

                                                                            lol, what a pathetic bitch, all you care about is your looks, grow up.

                                                                        • Avernuum Solantis
                                                                          Avernuum Solantis  11 hours back

                                                                          Whoever keeps designing those cheap looking speakers for these headsets should be publicly executed... Not to mention the mic!

                                                                          • Charles Li
                                                                            Charles Li  11 hours back

                                                                            buying the index for the free cat in the box!

                                                                            • Globespy
                                                                              Globespy  11 hours back

                                                                              Way to go Linus......but it's still a huge letdown given that it's really marginally better visually than the Rift S, and is much harder to drive even with high end PC. With the problems with the index controllers reported all over the internet it's really not worth the money.
                                                                              I had one for a week and returned in favor of keeping the Rift S as it is simply far more compelling since both these HMD's are nothing more than stop-gaps between old and actual next gen VR.

                                                                              • The Great Bambino
                                                                                The Great Bambino  11 hours back

                                                                                You need to play Boneworks ny Stress Level Zero when it comes out. It's the only VR gaming experience being presented right now that adequately supports Index functionality.