Martial Arts Frauds: Bart Vale


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  • Christian Shreve
    Christian Shreve  2 years back

    I was hoping this would make a credible point. Andy Hug, Ken Shamrock , Dan Severn. Based upon only the material here, Vale was not a martial arts fraud. What is the motivation for portraying him as such? According to this, it is not based upon empirical data collected.

    • Ethan Pfohl
      Ethan Pfohl  9 hours back

      @ThePinkMan They didn't think they were real it was enjoyable I see that you are not a pro wrestling fan but thats the truth. It was scripted but getting slammed on wood every day hurts and isn't fake.

    • Jimmy Turner
      Jimmy Turner  1 weeks back

      @appraiserjv1 another person who paid to get trained by a fake fighter

    • Jimmy Turner
      Jimmy Turner  1 weeks back

      @WACO Glider Man found a guy who got gritted. How much did you pay to be "trained" by him?

    • Matthew Zablocki
      Matthew Zablocki  4 weeks back

      @Hong-En Lin 1989 pro wrestling debut. 95 UFC debut. 6 yrs isn't a long time and just because he debuted in pw first doesn't mean he was a shit ufc fighter. He was a decent record.

    • Ash Chaya
      Ash Chaya  1 months back

      @Shogun Warrior Why would fighting in Pancrase diminish anyone's abilities? That shit was legit.

  • Harry Tzianskis The God of Speed

    Do one on Bruce Lee he was the biggest one

    • joebeast15
      joebeast15  6 hours back

      At least this dude actually stepped in the ring and fought. Yeah he wasn’t nearly as good as he claimed but the fact that he actually fought before is something. I can respect that

      • Chris Saindon
        Chris Saindon  9 hours back

        The 27-WHS-tape series on Cambodian Fighting Bumpers was phony?

        • Patrick Ciacco
          Patrick Ciacco  9 hours back

          Most martial art tough guys are fighting charlitans. The martial arts have always been a breeding ground for " Dojo frauds " Tough guys really hide behind all that  "Martial Macho Crap " because there really insecure as hell about their " Machismo " I've watched many martial arts matches and its all phoney demonstration shadow fighting. Lets call it " Clenched Fist Ballet " even when martial arts student wear gloves its still  " Clenched Fist Ballet " at best. The only real martial arts fighters ive seen when I saw real blood and real K.O. 's is UFC. The dudes in the UFC fighting division are real fighters anyway. That's real fighting and real blood and no Martial Arts fraudulent charlatan would dare go near a UFC warrior because that would shatter the illusion of their integrity and waist their big ego's.

          • Yeng Minna Si Media
            Yeng Minna Si Media  12 hours back

            eastern esoteric bullshit ?

            • Matthew Granahan
              Matthew Granahan  1 days back

              Also Pancrase was mostly works. Is Bas Rutten a fraud? Ken Shamrock? They both did shoots and works. You can say Vale wasn't a good fighter but he isn't a fraud.

              • aaron m
                aaron m  20 hours back

                Matthew Granahan ken and bas are legit champs tho 🤦🏿‍♂️

            • Matthew Granahan
              Matthew Granahan  1 days back

              Bart Vale is no fraud. He did both shoots and works. Also you had to be able to hang in chain wrestling and striking in UWFi even though it was a Work.

              • Ghostlore
                Ghostlore  2 days back

                FYI PinkMan I've rolled with Severn (he was training out of the Tripp academy in prep for UFC 5 I believe). He is most definitely a beast, is a very, very nice person and I am extremely grateful he doesn't 'love raping people' per your comment. That would have been a very bad day for me.
                As for Vale, he was no more of a fraud than anyone else fighting out of Japan in those days; the gangs were running many of the events, so fighters were often not given a lot of choice and fights were rigged all the time. He had a modicum of talent, was tougher than you give him credit for, but yeah he definitely tried to self promote based on some sketchy past events. Not saying he should be forgiven for that, but the truth is a lot of fighters did that in those days. It is what it is.
                In any case, Torre was WAYYYYYYYY fucking worse.

                • D T
                  D T  3 days back

                  Who have you defeated in legit MMA fights?

                  • teofeo333
                    teofeo333  3 days back

                    Now I do have to say that Kyusho Jitsu (G. Dillman) does actually work. The "no touch" stuff is booshi, but the formula (which is a tad complicated) of targeting pressure points works well and was studied and legitimized by Cornell University. In western terms the system utilizes a short circuiting of the nervous system. We say nerve lines, the Chinese say Chi lines. I was a skeptic but, no booshi, the shi works as long as you're not fighting a skilled fighter :)

                    • dusty rhodes
                      dusty rhodes  4 days back

             sir are a national treasure!

                      • iseeolly
                        iseeolly  5 days back

                        hmmm come to suffolk uk and I will kick your fucking eyes out....swear to god....

                        • mark w
                          mark w  5 days back

                          More pissed at people buying into this crap, rather than the com man. Anyway have to go to my trancendental meditation course

                          • Nate
                            Nate  6 days back

                            4:13 Heavily mulleted! OH SHIT! That's funny, if you listen closely to his subtle but cleaver script this guy is hilarious!

                            • denzelsnipes69
                              denzelsnipes69  1 weeks back

                              "The heavily mulletted Florida native...."

                              • Sebastian Wardana
                                Sebastian Wardana  1 weeks back

                                I may not be a navy seal, but a needy one.

                                • Paul Annas
                                  Paul Annas  2 weeks back

                                  OK pinkman, i agree there are alot of so called martial artists out there that shouldnt be, I agree they should be caught out as frauds. but all the other stuff you rant on about like calling an
                                  esoteric art bullshit, esoteric arts are hidden from people because the lineage heads believe that it should remain either taught their own people or relatives of the art they teach, or because of other factions weather it be religeous reasons or political reasons, Ninjutsu was an esoteric art until Soke Masaaki Hatsumi who is the 34th grandmaster of Ninjutsu who was told by Takamatsu ( soke Hatsumi"s ) teacher who was the 33rd grandmaster that Soke Hatsumi should open the art up to the world, to call esoteric arts bullshit is a lack of respect.
                                  I dont know if youve had any martial arts background, it sounds as though you dont, if you have, i apologise, but make sure you research what you are talking about first, If you have no martial art background i really believe you shouldnt talk about it, reading about martial arts does not make you an expert, because there are alot of martial arts books that were written by people that havnt done martial arts.

                                  • The Pink Man
                                    The Pink Man  2 weeks back


                                    • Trumps Doctor
                                      Trumps Doctor  2 weeks back

                                      It’s a reach to call this guy a fraud, not a great fighter sure but I don’t see how he’s a fraud.

                                      • Vinicius Machado
                                        Vinicius Machado  2 weeks back

                                        it is interesting to notice that bart vale would kick the other fraud's asses. he has at least some striking and grapling skill. those other pitifull tards got nothing on him.

                                        • Alexander Cooper
                                          Alexander Cooper  2 weeks back

                                          "EASTERN ESOTERIC BULLSHIT!" XD I laughed so hard I couldn't breathe!

                                          • J o n a t h a n
                                            J o n a t h a n  2 weeks back

                                            i hate fake fortnite players.

                                            • IETCHX69
                                              IETCHX69  2 weeks back

                                              You EARNED my sub

                                              • Aaron Michael
                                                Aaron Michael  2 weeks back

                                                Thumbs down just for your voice. Your voice is riddled with estrogen, please use subtitles so I can make it through.

                                                • Ivan Alban
                                                  Ivan Alban  3 weeks back

                                                  This dude isn't half as bad as some fake dorks that I've seen.

                                                  • antonio quinonez
                                                    antonio quinonez  3 weeks back

                                                    I dunno. Looks real to me. :P

                                                    • Timothy Bates
                                                      Timothy Bates  3 weeks back

                                                      The narrator's voice gave me cancer.😐

                                                      • SuperBigblue19
                                                        SuperBigblue19  3 weeks back

                                                        Muppets giving this joke Kudos for being in real fights? He was supposed to be one of the best, not someone who showed up just to get his face caved in.
                                                        How dumb or well paid did this fool have to be to think he had a chance against a guy like Dan "The Beast" Severn?

                                                        • Zim Zimma
                                                          Zim Zimma  3 weeks back

                                                          If I was a bullshit fighter and I got matched up with Andy Hug, well ye I think I would have packed it in fairly quick.

                                                          • TheGreatgan
                                                            TheGreatgan  3 weeks back

                                                            He wasnt the worst kind of fraud.. looking back to all kind of scam n bullshit in ma community. He was kinda ok-ish.. at least he dare to put himself in a cage with the world top fighter of the era.

                                                            • Dash Iljazi
                                                              Dash Iljazi  3 weeks back

                                                              can this video get anymore boring??? this video proved nothing and the worlds worst voice commentating

                                                              • Daniel Hounshell
                                                                Daniel Hounshell  3 weeks back

                                                                Calling stuff "eastern esoteric bullshit" is incredibly offensive to the actual cultures of those countries. Spiritualism doesn't equal stupidity, in fact the only real tie between spiritualism and martial arts as far back as there are records for mostly just show that people practiced martial arts for self-improvement, a journey to understand and test themselves in order to reach some personal enlightenment. Chi was essentially believed to be related to an understanding of the self, as well as the way that energy flows through the body, a.k.a not something you can fire at people. Disregarding people's religious beliefs and calling it bullshit on the same level as nonsense chi attacks is a dick move, not to mention utterly tone-deaf.

                                                                • Shawn Cicero
                                                                  Shawn Cicero  3 weeks back

                                                                  Bart Vale as you can read anywhere is known as jumping into a new movement, having balls to do it, but never being competitive in doing so

                                                                  • Shawn Cicero
                                                                    Shawn Cicero  3 weeks back

                                                                    Bart Vale was always seen as a clown

                                                                    • Károly Papp
                                                                      Károly Papp  4 weeks back

                                                                      Lonely sociophatic dweeb : his name is John Cena.

                                                                      • Ballowall
                                                                        Ballowall  4 weeks back

                                                                        Can't fault a guy for losing to Andy Hug.

                                                                        • dylanscally
                                                                          dylanscally  4 weeks back

                                                                          No fraud, just not as good as he thought. He got in there, he lost, no big deal.

                                                                          • HollywoodSaint 57
                                                                            HollywoodSaint 57  4 weeks back

                                                                            Looked no different than those televangelists

                                                                            • Tron Magnum
                                                                              Tron Magnum  4 weeks back

                                                                              He had the balls to fight Andy Hug. More than I can say for most people. Maybe not a great fighter but not really a fraud. He fought some badasses and lost.

                                                                              • Gray Fowler
                                                                                Gray Fowler  4 weeks back

                                                                                What is it American Waste can instantly tell somebody something is bullshit. It's like the coming gold to do you mean any other races any races either self defense military government. And I usually almost always from a white American the talk shit like he's the greatest Authority. Like You video to keep doing it

                                                                                • Gabriel Majin
                                                                                  Gabriel Majin  1 months back

                                                                                  i see Bas Rutten , i hit the like button !

                                                                                  • David Rosales
                                                                                    David Rosales  1 months back

                                                                                    He wasn't a fraud more like a fake he actually fought but was a fake cus he wasn't what he said he was 🤔😂

                                                                                    • Mrbeef_
                                                                                      Mrbeef_  1 months back

                                                                                      I hate your voice

                                                                                      • AvntXardE
                                                                                        AvntXardE  1 months back

                                                                                        4:42 What song is that in the background again? Some punk band I think...

                                                                                        • Tony Ryan
                                                                                          Tony Ryan  1 months back

                                                                                          Copped ass in bars....hilarious

                                                                                          • Elsa Debroglie
                                                                                            Elsa Debroglie  1 months back

                                                                                            I once shot a cork out my nostril at 10,000 PSI.

                                                                                            • James Gilbert
                                                                                              James Gilbert  1 months back

                                                                                              0:35 Meal Team 6