Rhaegar: was Jon’s father the true hero of Game of Thrones?

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  • Published: 27 November 2017
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    Who was Jon Snow’s father, Rhaegar Targaryen? What were his political plans for his father, Mad King Aerys? What were his beliefs about the prophecy of Azor Ahai and the three heads of the dragon?

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Comments • 5 218

  • Victoria Oh
    Victoria Oh  2 days back

    NO HE WAS NOT

    • Fusiongene
      Fusiongene  3 days back

      Aegon wasn’t killed! Varys swapped the babies!

      • Notorious1503
        Notorious1503  4 days back

        What I wanna know is how did elia feel about rheagar leaving with lyanna

        • American Badass
          American Badass  5 days back

          Y is jhon cena in thumbnail

          • Addison Jorgensen
            Addison Jorgensen  6 days back

            The final lightbringer stage was the dagger Jon snow killed Daenerys with

            • Залізний кулак

              Rhaegar choose Brunette over latina

              • Brandon Lambert
                Brandon Lambert  1 weeks back

                I really hope the book series ends differently than the TV series. Daenerys deserved so much better.

                • John Snow
                  John Snow  1 weeks back

                  Then yong boy kill Targarien

                  • Silence's Noises
                    Silence's Noises  1 weeks back

                    These theories help me get through the endless wait for Winds of Winter.

                    • DockyardDiva
                      DockyardDiva  2 weeks back

                      the prince that was promised drove the darkness away by plunging his sword in to the nazi thug, breaking the iron wheel at last. Women were liberated to be. Queen of the North, Kingsgurd.and freedom loving death defing explorers. well done

                      • DockyardDiva
                        DockyardDiva  2 weeks back

                        the prince that was promised drove the darkness away by plunging his sword in to the nazi thug, breaking the iron wheel at last. Women were liberated to be. Queen of the North, Kingsgurd.and freedom loving death defing explorers. well done

                        • Anirudh K.s
                          Anirudh K.s  2 weeks back

                          Wait, it was arya who killed the night king!

                          • Death's Gaze
                            Death's Gaze  2 weeks back

                            DandD can go fuck themselves. Only reason for Rhaegar and Lyanna's "love" is just to shock the audience.

                            • Aakarsh Gupta
                              Aakarsh Gupta  2 weeks back

                              hmmm... 12;58 this reminds me of Jon Snow stabbing Daenerys. I still think that the story has more to go. GoT final chapter. Ofcourse it's the final chapter of Game of THRONES since the throne was destroyed by Drogon but it doesn't means the story is ended. May be something bigger is waiting for Jon Snow. That's why Azor Ahai a.k.a Jon is still alive. And maybe the knife he stabbed her with will be his weapon lightbringer to kill the final enemy🤔

                              • samo umek
                                samo umek  6 days back

                                When and how dude, isn't the serie over?

                            • THOR odinson.
                              THOR odinson.  2 weeks back

                              Wht happened to Jon's siblings?? Rheagar's other children?

                              • lishaarper
                                lishaarper  2 weeks back

                                THOR odinson. They (Aegon and Rhaenys) were killed with their mother, Elia Martell, by the Mountain. Some theories reckon Aegon survived but idk

                            • IvyHilts
                              IvyHilts  2 weeks back

                              I've always picture Rhaegar with the face and voice of Kurt Cobain. The sadness, the music talent, the face features...

                              • Mike Jones
                                Mike Jones  2 weeks back

                                Well at least now we know none of this matters, the show was ruin and ended with no deeper meaning or explanation about anything!

                                • Swapnil Kashyap
                                  Swapnil Kashyap  3 weeks back

                                  motherfucking plot

                                  • Salty Kenny
                                    Salty Kenny  3 weeks back

                                    Love is the death of duty.

                                    • KULSOOM REHMAN
                                      KULSOOM REHMAN  3 weeks back

                                      The finale didn't fall in line with all these. All ended in ruin

                                      • Michael Boggio
                                        Michael Boggio  3 weeks back

                                        Well now everything's shit, atleast in the show. Hopefully it's not the real story and George has something planned for us

                                        • Thess Fangirl
                                          Thess Fangirl  3 weeks back

                                          He literally destroyed the kingdom over nothing but whims, and caused the death of his family.

                                          • Brenzinga
                                            Brenzinga  3 weeks back

                                            And his was a song of ice and fire, his first wife Elia was of fire and his second wife Lyanna was of ice.

                                            • n day
                                              n day  4 weeks back

                                              This is really pissy seeing all this being for nothing

                                              • Bangtanie kim
                                                Bangtanie kim  4 weeks back

                                                nope.

                                                • Gamer Cassidy
                                                  Gamer Cassidy  4 weeks back

                                                  YOU ARE TELLING ME JON SLEPT WITH HIS AUNTIE? AND DAENERYS WITH HER NEPHEW.

                                                  That's what you call messed up peeps.

                                                • Backmarker Vali
                                                  Backmarker Vali  4 weeks back

                                                  if you think is confusing, don't worry. NOTHING OF THIS MATTERS!!! in season 8 they all decided to give up on the very premise of the show. there will be no games, no more :))

                                                  • Euge ne
                                                    Euge ne  4 weeks back

                                                    Pause at 2:24 and listen truth by rajmin💔

                                                    • Marjannah Kim
                                                      Marjannah Kim  4 weeks back

                                                      Yeah right. Rhaegar left his original wife and two kids, marry another girl to conceive his third child that meant absolutely nothing in the end. JON AND HIS SIBLINGS (RHAENYS AND AEGON) DESERVED BETTER!! DAMN IT HBO! WHY DO YOU HAVE TO EXILE JON TO THE WALL??

                                                      Still so disappointed grrr.

                                                      • Targaryen Boy
                                                        Targaryen Boy  4 weeks back

                                                        No one gives a f*uck

                                                        • Project Deadpool
                                                          Project Deadpool  4 weeks back

                                                          All Rhaegar Targaryen did was fuck Lyanna the stark slut. Now you call him a hero for this?

                                                          • Ayesha Niazi
                                                            Ayesha Niazi  4 weeks back

                                                            Sad that none of this really meant anything in the end :(

                                                            • Jimbles Notronbo
                                                              Jimbles Notronbo  4 weeks back

                                                              That’s only in the shit show, the books will end perfectly...if they ever end

                                                          • TheGamingPanda
                                                            TheGamingPanda  4 weeks back

                                                            Mark my words this is what the prequel will be about

                                                            • Max Pays
                                                              Max Pays  4 weeks back

                                                              hopefully in the prequels we see more of the targaryen house. They are the most fascinating and powerful house in Westeros, shame we only saw viserys and daenerys in the show

                                                              • Rohitha choudhary
                                                                Rohitha choudhary  4 weeks back

                                                                Is anyone else bothered by his pronunciation of Lyanna?

                                                                • Richard  Donaldson
                                                                  Richard Donaldson  4 weeks back

                                                                  You Know Nothing Jon Snow now sounds even more ironic

                                                                  • Red Priest
                                                                    Red Priest  4 weeks back

                                                                    Aegon Targaryen could still be alive

                                                                    • Naruto Uzumaki
                                                                      Naruto Uzumaki  1 months back

                                                                      whenever he says "laiyana" a part of me dies :(

                                                                      it's lyanna ffs

                                                                      • Snake Pliskin
                                                                        Snake Pliskin  1 months back

                                                                        They should make a side movie for the battle of the trident

                                                                        • Drogon Dracarys
                                                                          Drogon Dracarys  1 months back

                                                                          Rhaegar was in love with her he wasn't thinking with his dick! He is a hero 🙏🏼👑

                                                                          • Drogon Dracarys
                                                                            Drogon Dracarys  1 months back

                                                                            Targaryen are true heroes of GOT not fuking, stupid Starks

                                                                            • Nordic Gaming
                                                                              Nordic Gaming  1 months back

                                                                              Rhaegar died in episode 6 and he was a complete idiot. Somehow I find it hard to take this title serious.

                                                                              • El Faraz
                                                                                El Faraz  1 months back

                                                                                I think jon story was same as rhaegar

                                                                                • Nitin Chauhan
                                                                                  Nitin Chauhan  1 months back

                                                                                  Your thumbnail ruined the show for me..

                                                                                  • Wyatt L
                                                                                    Wyatt L  1 months back

                                                                                    this just blew my mind into a million pieces thank you

                                                                                    • TechJunkie
                                                                                      TechJunkie  1 months back

                                                                                      Moral of the story? Lyanna got some of that bomb ass pu**y!! Seriously, sparks must have shot out of her ass lmao.

                                                                                      • Novak Kavon
                                                                                        Novak Kavon  1 months back

                                                                                        I read the books i seen the show i watched every george rr martin interview and D &D interviews ,i listend to everything about the topic from fans to creators i have never heard or read a definitive word were rhaegar is jon father ...like nowhere ...we get hints to lyana and rhaegar story we get visions seen by bran in the show and all the cluess on the topic but nowhere by nothing either written or shown on tv were anybody but bran say this ...Sam finds out about marriage annulment bran see them getting married but again nothing showes rhaegar is the father ...i mean im not saying he is not i just find it funny how everybody just accepted it as truth when george rr martin always says dont trust in the stories ..and the 3 eyed raven ? Well nan said in the beginning of the show "dont trust crows they all liars" she said that to bran ...it could all be metaphorically like George saying to us dont belive nothing if you havent lived it if you havent experienced it..storys get warped misinterpretated...dont know is to obvious like if you read the books and watch tv show i knew this would be before even finishing 3 book..apsolutely no suprise when the show implied this...but im not sold 100 percent maybe 70 percent ...

                                                                                        • Ike Sweitzer
                                                                                          Ike Sweitzer  1 months back

                                                                                          Azor Ahai should have tried tempering Lightbringer in hot oil after a few normalizing cycles. Not to sure why he jumped immediately from water to live animals.